![]() ![]() There are a few developers that I know of that graduated from the Henry Ford School of Software Development. Like John, though, I could probably switch back to it and be happy that the grass looks greener again for a little while. My problem with Zotero is ultimately more a feeling built up by the above issues over a few years of use than anything else. I wouldn’t say the above qualms are well-justified. Bookends isn’t much better on this front but I find it more robust somehow. ![]() I did not like using Zotero’s Zotfile plugin to manage PDF files and their annotations, especially when trying to keep those files synced with an iPad and with DEVONthink. While Zotero has a rich plugin ecosystem, I found the edge cases in use I’d run up against finicky to resolve. Zotero feels super out of place on a Mac-once you’re used to a lot of the Mac conventions, anyway! ![]() I would try your 7k and see how it feels. I have about 1500 references and i haven’t liked how it behaves with that many. Off the top of my head, here’s what I dislike about Zotero: Oh, before I forget, the manual for Bookends is in the Help menu on the menubar. There’s no reason to use it unless you hate the other options more… I’d say your first impression of Bookends is pretty accurate. I still need to do a tutorial on how to use tags in MacOS, and Zotero does seem to integrate with Alfred, so I seem to me missing the nuances when I don’t see how it would give bookends so much of an advantage). Perhaps the positive comments would be most relevant in relation to MacOS integration because that is something I can’t really appreciate yet (e.g. I still don’t understand it, but it seems U have to adjust my expectations from the Windows world to the (smaller) Apple world.Īnyway, long story short, I wonder if you could specify some more of the downsides of both Bookends and Zotero? If you feel it’s important, I’ll also happily read the upsides, but I’m a believer in negative reviews as they tend to give you a more sober picture when trying to decide between two very good products. At first, I dismissed Bookends because “obviously” no one was using it. And the absence of documentation online is also frightening. So I’m afraid this sort of thing might continue with bookends. And, tbh, when I first opened bookends and imported some references, I struggled for like 15 minutes to figure out how to edit those references. I’m fascinated by ‘s combination of the two (plus integration with Devonthink, which is the actual reason for my transition to Mac, and Obsidian, which I already use) but I’m still not sure whether it mightn’ t be a lot easier to just use Zotero only, no bookends, keep it simple etc.īoth and have their gripes with bookends, so, obviously it’s not perfect, plus, it’s not open source, which can be an issue years ahead and I don’t really want to migrate my 7000+ references ever again. So this is why I’m so happy to find this topic (previously I’d only seen the one from last year), which pushed me towards bookends). So do I want to learn/accustomize myself with both, just to see which import works better and which ref manager works better? Not really. However, I have no prior experience with neither JavaScript (the importing language for Zotero) or Applescript (for Bookends). I’m still trying to figure out how to import everything from Citavi into each of them, but it has become apparent that custom scripting/configuring will be necessary in both cases. it seems to be a myth), I’m still willing to explore the Apple world.Īnyway, this involves replacing my current reference manager (Citavi), which is Windows only and I’m stuck between Bookends and Zotero, but without really having tried either of them yet. This topic is invaluable! I’m in the process of moving from Windows to Mac and while I find no evidence for the “Mac just work” myth (i.e. (Thanks for previous sidebar discussion.) The list of modern conveniences continues… There’s also ZotHero to search the Zotero database from Alfred. I can also export my annotations to markdown, then copy those into a note in Obsidian, with a link to the notes file being added to Zotero by ZotFile. ![]() Though I’ll need to see how well it places with the Citations plugin in Obsidian. I’m experimenting with citekey formats, and kind of like this one: Acerbi2017TargetUncertaintyMediates I did manage to retain my “Location” field, which is the binder and folder numbers that my printed copy are in by using a small AppleScript for Bookends to copy user5 to user3, which is the call num field which does import (whereas user5 does not). I did lose my tags, but on the plus side, tags in Zotero gives you a list of suggestions (novel idea). Yesterday I jumped in, held my breath and exported my Bookends database to EndNote (XML) with attachments, then imported into Zotero. I previously considered making the switch from Bookends to Zotero (because reasons), but ultimately did not. ![]()
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